[VOIPSEC] VOIP for free??

[Terpstra, Rich]

There are some CALEA issues in addition to 911.

Rich
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From: Voipsec-bounces at voipsa.org [mailto:Voipsec-bounces at voipsa.org] On
Behalf Of Smith, Donald
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 8:50 AM
To: Vatsal Mehta; Kartik Trivedi; voipsec at voipsa.org
Subject: RE: [VOIPSEC] VOIP for free??

This makes 911 much harder which I consider a security implication.
If any of your security comes from origination on a trusted network it
invalidates those features.


donald.smith at qwest.com giac 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Voipsec-bounces at voipsa.org 
> [mailto:Voipsec-bounces at voipsa.org] On Behalf Of Vatsal Mehta
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:03 PM
> To: 'Kartik Trivedi'; voipsec at voipsa.org
> Subject: RE: [VOIPSEC] VOIP for free??
> 
> 
> Kartik,
> 
> >Just heard this, need to verify it. So you have companies like
> >vonage and etc selling you VoIP phone with a local number. All 
> >you need is a internet broadband and a box then you got a US 
> >number. What is stopping someone ship this box to,say taiwan, 
> >and making int'l call paying local price($20 for unlimited 
> >call)?
> 
> That is exactly why VOIP is popular for travelers. So who 
> would stop them - probably Taiwanese telecom operators, who 
> lose revenue. The location of phone can be detected by Vonage 
> etc. through IP Address, and they can possibly charge more 
> for "roaming". 
> 
> Problems would be the quality of service. You cannot 
> guarantee how much end-to-end bandwidth you get by sitting in 
> some hotel in Taiwan using your VOIP phone.
> 
> >is there any security implication on this?
> 
> The same security implications are applied to this as to any 
> other VOIP system. Except, if you are taking your company 
> distributed VOIP phone or a Vonage phone; question would be 
> who is supposed to implement the security.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Vatsal
> 
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> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Voipsec-bounces at voipsa.org
> >[mailto:Voipsec-bounces at voipsa.org] On Behalf Of Kartik Trivedi
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 7:58 AM
> >To: voipsec at voipsa.org
> >Subject: [VOIPSEC] VOIP for free??
> >
> >Guys,
> >
> >Just got this question from one of my friends...Any thoughts?
> >
> >Just heard this, need to verify it. So you have companies like
> >vonage and etc selling you VoIP phone with a local number. All 
> >you need is a internet broadband and a box then you got a US 
> >number. What is stopping someone ship this box to,say taiwan, 
> >and making int'l call paying local price($20 for unlimited 
> >call)? From my understanding, it is practically doable. Skype 
> >makes it free, but it doesn't give you a US phone number. So 
> >is there any security implication on this?
> >
> >Thanks in advance!!
> >
> >
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