[VOIPSEC] e911 peculiarities

Thu Feb 12 09:51:08 CST 2009

The big picture is still: *Lack of regulation* as previously mentioned.

If you don´t have it, why should you care to add this functionality and use
of money and resources?

André Dutra
Security Consultant

2009/2/12 <voipsec-request at voipsa.org>

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>   1. Got Pena. (Shawn Merdinger)
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>   3. Re: Got Pena. (Dan York)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:42:12 -0500
> From: Shawn Merdinger <shawnmer at gmail.com>
> Subject: [VOIPSEC] Got Pena.
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> Date: Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 2:07 AM
> Subject: [ISN] Feds find, arrest fugitive hacker on the run in Mexico
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> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=security&articleId=9127718
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> By Sharon Gaudin
> February 10, 2009
> Computerworld
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> A Miami man, on the run for more than two years after being arrested and
> charged with stealing and reselling VoIP services, has been caught in
> Mexico.
>
> Edwin Pena was arrested in June of 2006 on computer and wire fraud
> charges. The government charges that from November 2004 to May 2006 Pena
> and a cohort hacked into the computer networks of VoIP service providers
> and routed calls of Pena's customers' through them.
>
> According to a criminal complaint filed in U.S. District Court in New
> Jersey, Pena and co-conspirator Robert Moore of Spokane, Wash., sold
> more than 10 million minutes of VoIP service stolen from 15
> telecommunications providers.
>
> Pena, who is charged with one count of computer fraud and one count of
> wire fraud, faces a maximum of 25 years in prison.
>
> [...]
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 07:42:27 -0600
> From: "J. Oquendo" <sil at infiltrated.net>
> Subject: [VOIPSEC] e911 peculiarities
> To: voipsec at voipsa.org
> Message-ID: <20090211134227.GA64121 at infiltrated.net>
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>
> Shooting this question off as I could NOT find any information
> anywhere regarding this peculiarity. Tried FCC, other mailing
> lists, contacts @ carriers (Level3, Global, VZ, etc) yet all
> have scratched their heads on this one. (By the way, has to
> do with the American system for 911).
>
> In the PSTN system when a client's service is disconnected,
> they're still usually given the ability to dial emergency
> services through their phone lines no matter what. 1) Is this
> a regulatory mandate? Secondly, has someone implemented
> something similar in a VoIP carrier scale?
>
> Say you're running a mini VoIP telephone service, you have
> say 10 clients and one doesn't pay. You place them in say a
> temporary disconnected state. Are you required to still pass
> off 911 services via VoIP if the client is a deadbeat?
>
> Please don't bother posting FCC's cgb/consumerfacts/voip911.html
> page. Offers little information regarding this situation.
> Which brings me to an altogether separate question... In the
> current architecture of a VoIP carrier, you'll almost always
> run into the following:
>
> Client --> VoIP device (ata, etal) --> ISP --> Carrier
>
> What happens when the ISP portion goes awry and a client
> can't get to 911. Obviously it's not the carriers fault,
> has any seen VoIP 911 specific issues like this come into
> play?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:01:14 -0500
> From: Dan York <dyork at lodestar2.com>
> Subject: Re: [VOIPSEC] Got Pena.
> To: Shawn Merdinger <shawnmer at gmail.com>
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> Shawn,
>
> Cool!  Thanks for passing along the news...
>
> Dan
>
> On Feb 11, 2009, at 8:42 AM, Shawn Merdinger wrote:
>
> >
> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=security&articleId=9127718
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: InfoSec News <alerts at infosecnews.org>
> > Date: Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 2:07 AM
> > Subject: [ISN] Feds find, arrest fugitive hacker on the run in Mexico
> > To: isn at infosecnews.org
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=security&articleId=9127718
> >
> > By Sharon Gaudin
> > February 10, 2009
> > Computerworld
> >
> > A Miami man, on the run for more than two years after being arrested
> > and
> > charged with stealing and reselling VoIP services, has been caught in
> > Mexico.
> >
> > Edwin Pena was arrested in June of 2006 on computer and wire fraud
> > charges. The government charges that from November 2004 to May 2006
> > Pena
> > and a cohort hacked into the computer networks of VoIP service
> > providers
> > and routed calls of Pena's customers' through them.
> >
> > According to a criminal complaint filed in U.S. District Court in New
> > Jersey, Pena and co-conspirator Robert Moore of Spokane, Wash., sold
> > more than 10 million minutes of VoIP service stolen from 15
> > telecommunications providers.
> >
> > Pena, who is charged with one count of computer fraud and one count of
> > wire fraud, faces a maximum of 25 years in prison.
> >
> > [...]
> >
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