rjesup at wgate.com
Mon Mar 20 21:26:08 GMT 2006
Simon Horne <s.horne at packetizer.com> writes:
>I have to totally agree, using a handset to me is much better then using
>headphone/speakers (says the guy who writes softphones) but its true.
The same applies to webcams/chat vs standalone videophones (which is why
we're selling home H.264 videophones with LCDs). Not to mention your
computer is likely not to be in the same sort of room where you like to
talk to people (kitchen, family room, perhaps bedroom, etc).
>The price of secure IP phones is most likely going to be quite high as
>these devices would need quite a lot of expensive upgrades and include
>things like encryption accelerator chips etc and they can be expensive. Are
>people going to pay the money for them and is there a "big enough" market
SRTP doesn't need all that junk. Even for videophones, we're not
encrypting a huge amount of traffic; a megabit or so at the outside (and
generally 384K or less - our videophone runs at 80-250K total including
audio and overhead at 30FPS). For a DSP SRTP/AES is no challenge at all.
Or use a standard network processor with a built-in crypto engine as the
main controller CPU. Might cost you $5 more than the chip without it -
maybe. Added hardware cost (ignoring NRE) for encryption should be <$5,
and quite possibly $0.
>Then on the technical standpoint - there is no common standard way of doing
>key exchange so it needs to support all or none. If the device talks to
>another device that does not support the implemented method of encryption,
>will the call fail? Can the call revert back to standard RTP? These issues
>and the "answer on zero ring" encrypted call problem are going to hamper
>development of these devices.
These are the REAL issues. We have a good standard for the streams (SRTP);
we have sucky (working) to non-existant standardization on the key exchange
and call-setup side. Isn't that what we're in theory trying to deal with
>Another major issue for home office uses in the "Cool I have this secure
>IP phone now how the heck do I get it to traverse my NAT?" issue. Get an
SRTP has no or little impact on NAT traversal. So long as you don't
encrypt the SIP traffic, in _theory_ key exchange doesn't mess up SBCs.
But that's edging into the vortex of problems with call setup.
Randell Jesup, Worldgate (developers of the Ojo videophone), ex-Amiga OS team
rjesup at wgate.com
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