[VOIPSEC] 4G Issue Map: signaling complexity - more

Michael Slavitch slavitch at gmail.com
Tue Aug 29 23:21:26 CDT 2006


Companies may have paid dearly for it, and they certainly want to charge
their customers dearly to cover their sunk investment and please their
shareholders but it takes two to make a handshake. Customers don't have to
buy it. It doesn't matter a whit how much the spectrum cost if customers
don't want to buy the service and there is a choice of low cost or free
alternatives.


On 8/29/06, Geoff Devine <gdevine at cedarpointcom.com> wrote:
>
>   Licensed spectrum is far from a commodity.  Companies pay dearly for it
> and charge their end-users appropriately.  There isn't much unlicensed
> spectrum and it'll quickly get used up if people start trying to push HDTV
> down it.  Coax and fiber don't have that issue.
>
>
>
> Geoff
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Michael Slavitch [mailto:slavitch at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:30 PM
> *To:* Geoff Devine
> *Cc:* Paul E. Jones; stuart jacobs; bill at flanagan-consulting.com; Henry
> Sinnreich; Voipsec at voipsa.org
>
> *Subject:* Re: [VOIPSEC] 4G Issue Map: signaling complexity - more
>
>
>
> Of course they won't. But Google or Google like providers will, over
> 802.11 or another wireless protocol.
> With spectrum now a commodity the last mile is a dead issue if the last
> mile chooses not to compete.
>
> And before someone opines that 802.11 doesn't scale or doesn't offer
> security there is a startup in my building that does just that on a
> metropolitan scale:
>
> "*Gridpoint Systems* is an innovative technology company created to shape
> the evolution of Broadband Access/Edge networks both for wireline and
> wireless means. The Company is adding agile managed Carrier-Grade features
> to Ethernet Access/Edge Broadband networks. This disruptive solution is
> based on a Distributed Virtual Switch (DVS™) concept that transforms today's
> "best effort" access/edge into a reliable, predictable, high performance,
> cost effective network."
>
> I'm sure Google and other ad-supported providers will be only happy to
> provide one-to-many capability using such technology.
>
>
>
>  On 8/29/06, *Geoff Devine* <gdevine at cedarpointcom.com> wrote:
>
> One-to-Many video distribution requires control of the access router and
> the last mile.  You can't seriously think that the telcos and MSOs will let
> this happen.  Access to QoS and multicast services on their networks is only
> going to be enabled for their own products.  Ditto 3G cellular which is a
> completely walled garden.
>
>
>
> Video distribution is also a buy-wholesale, sell-retail model that has
> surprisingly low margins.  The MSOs and satellite companies write very large
> checks to the content providers.  That funds distasteful content like the
> $200+ million Yankees payroll, Pro Wrestling, and Rachael Ray cooking
> shows.  If Akamai tries to pirate those video feeds, they'll get sued into
> oblivion by the content providers for violating copyright laws.  Akamai
> certainly won't pay less per subscriber than the MSOs or satellite broadcast
> companies.
>
>
>
> I also think ENUM is going to be a total failure.  People will stay with
> their trusted service providers to avoid getting SPAM phone calls at 3 AM
> from somebody claiming to be General Mubuti in Nigeria but who is actually
> trying to scam their bank account or sell them erectile dysfunction drugs.
> ENUM-like services that reference private databases administered by those
> trusted service providers will be the norm rather than a free-for-all
> e164.arpa.
>
>
>
> Geoff
>
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Michael Slavitch [mailto:slavitch at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 29, 2006 5:16 PM
>
>
> *To:* Paul E. Jones
> *Cc:* stuart jacobs; bill at flanagan-consulting.com; Henry Sinnreich;
> Voipsec at voipsa.org; Geoff Devine
>
> *Subject:* Re: [VOIPSEC] 4G Issue Map: signaling complexity - more
>
>
>
> One more short note before closing off my contribution to this thread:
>
>
>
> While the telecoms carriers are looking at the cable companies, a far
> bigger threat will come from companies like Akamai:
>
>
>
> http://www.akamai.com/
>
>
> If many-to-many conferencing, SIP ENUM peering and one-to-many live video
> needs geographically distributed CPU's, such vendors have all that is needed
> in hand.
>
>
>
>
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