[VOIPSEC] Voipsec Digest, Vol 8, Issue 26

[Hiscocks, Michael (CA - Ottawa)]

 Hello Randell et al,

"Enterprise" should refer to both inter & intra company calls splitting
this now would be a serious mistake for the future of VOIP.  We need to
work with this assumption.

Regards,

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Voipsec-bounces at voipsa.org [mailto:Voipsec-bounces at voipsa.org] On
Behalf Of Randell Jesup
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 6:12 PM
To: alex.deacon at gmail.com
Cc: Voipsec at voipsa.org; Albert
Subject: Re: [VOIPSEC] Voipsec Digest, Vol 8, Issue 26

Alex Deacon <alex.deacon at gmail.com> writes:
>If by "general marketplace" you mean people like my mom and 
>grandmother, then an argument could be made that no encryption is 
>better than a delay.  However if you mean enterprise usage, then 
>encryption, and a provably strong keying mechanism as Robert mentioned,

>are very important...if not mandatory.

        I was referring to your mom and grandmother.  However...

        Be careful - "enterprise" is a slippery word.  Does that include
inter-company calls, or only intra-company?  What about calls to other
companies who the user has no previous contact?  What about when they
call someone at home, or on a cell?  What if those calls happen to be
all-IP, not PSTN/POTS, do they need to be secure?  If a call to a office
user is forwarded (over IP) to a home phone, what do you do?  And do you
really mean that an enterprise would consider a solution with a circa
0.5-1sec delay on answer to be acceptable for general use?  I don't.

        Enterprises can use PKI's and avoid the delay - but not when
calling someone outside the enterprise, generally.  Sometimes not even
calling other offices.

>On 08 Sep 2005 04:14:43 -0400, Randell Jesup < rjesup at wgate.com 
><mailto:rjesup at wgate.com> > wrote:
>
>"Christopher A. Martin" < chris at InfraVAST.com 
><mailto:chris at InfraVAST.com> > writes:
>>And as was pointed out earlier in the thread by another person, the 
>>delay is acceptable. People are becoming accustomed to delays, 
>>otherwise cell phones would not be as popular as they are today.
>
>       This is in no way close to acceptable in the marketplace.  The 
>general marketplace will choose no encryption over that sort of delay.
>(And that would hurt the market and the users.)

--
Randell Jesup, Worldgate (developers of the Ojo videophone), ex-Amiga OS
team rjesup at wgate.com


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