[VOIPSEC] VOIP for free??

Robert Moskowitz rgm at icsalabs.com
Tue Apr 12 09:28:02 CDT 2005


At 02:27 PM 4/11/2005, Diana Cionoiu wrote:
>Hello Robert,
>
>Wireless and VoIP is anyway a bad idea.

But it is an expected service.  On public wireless footprints (Oakland 
County here in Michigan is developing theirs, and I expect to be dragged 
into it).

>Wireless with no security is another bad idea.

Even when we do good MACsec, there is still the layer 2.5 attack:  ARP 
poisions.   We have done this on 802.11i protected networks.   We have done 
this with switches running 802.1X.  Those are all layer 2 items.

>Any technology can be used wrong, but that's what people should decide.

99% of the users don't know how do decide and even that they are 
deciding.  We decide for them.  (yeah, I'm good at throwing around WEG 
numbers).

>Just think about ActiveX, and still a lot of people are using Internet 
>Explorer.

Hey, you need Windows update, you need ActiveX.  Wonderful.


Robert Moskowitz
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